Comments on: Alicia Lomne and pate de verre http://www.morganica.com/bloggery/2007/glasswork/castingpate-de-verre/alicia-lomne-and-pate-de-verre/ My life, my sculpture...and other things Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:44:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: cynthia http://www.morganica.com/bloggery/2007/glasswork/castingpate-de-verre/alicia-lomne-and-pate-de-verre/comment-page-1/#comment-186 cynthia Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:47:36 +0000 http://www.morganica.com/bloggery/2007/12/13/alicia-lomne-and-pate-de-verre/#comment-186 Claudia, I generally hand-pad it with flexible diamond pads (the little 2 inch ones) or with wet-dry sandpaper from the hardware store, works wet. Makes a wonderful velvety sheen and doesn't take all that long. On the packing, it's really just working in thin layers and tamping very firmly and regularly from the center out. You don't put on much glass with each application, and you're giving the granules the opportunity to slide into available spaces and lock together. Claudia, I generally hand-pad it with flexible diamond pads (the little 2 inch ones) or with wet-dry sandpaper from the hardware store, works wet. Makes a wonderful velvety sheen and doesn’t take all that long.

On the packing, it’s really just working in thin layers and tamping very firmly and regularly from the center out. You don’t put on much glass with each application, and you’re giving the granules the opportunity to slide into available spaces and lock together.

]]> By: Claudia Atkins http://www.morganica.com/bloggery/2007/glasswork/castingpate-de-verre/alicia-lomne-and-pate-de-verre/comment-page-1/#comment-185 Claudia Atkins Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:02:16 +0000 http://www.morganica.com/bloggery/2007/12/13/alicia-lomne-and-pate-de-verre/#comment-185 Hi Cynthia: Thanks for the info...I did some experiments with Haiguchi which worked much better:)....and I totally understand if you cannot share details of the class that are "proprietory" to Alicia"s techniques. I will take a class with her in the future for sure. She is a hard woman to get a hold off!!! Another question, which is more of a general techniques question...when you talk about packing the powder tightly ...other than wet and pressing it....in layers...are there any other secrects to it? And... how did you cold work, if at all, the side of the glass that is laying against the plaster? Thanks Claudia Hi Cynthia:
Thanks for the info…I did some experiments with Haiguchi which worked much better:)….and I totally understand if you cannot share details of the class that are “proprietory” to Alicia”s techniques. I will take a class with her in the future for sure. She is a hard woman to get a hold off!!!
Another question, which is more of a general techniques question…when you talk about packing the powder tightly …other than wet and pressing it….in layers…are there any other secrects to it?
And… how did you cold work, if at all, the side of the glass that is laying against the plaster?
Thanks
Claudia

]]> By: Cynthia Morgan http://www.morganica.com/bloggery/2007/glasswork/castingpate-de-verre/alicia-lomne-and-pate-de-verre/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Cynthia Morgan Sat, 05 Jan 2008 06:28:20 +0000 http://www.morganica.com/bloggery/2007/12/13/alicia-lomne-and-pate-de-verre/#comment-184 Hi, Claudia. Since they're not my techniques, I'm not really comfortable sharing much more, particularly specific schedules (there's a range of them) without Alicia's permission. One thing, though--these aren't done on a kilnwashed ceramic mold, as you can see above, but rather packed on wet plaster-silica investments. I've had some success on my own with pate de verre techniques on a kilnwashed permanent mold, and you CAN get it to work with enough fine/powder frit and a very solid, tight and layered pack. Still, the kilnwash does have a tendency to stick, I suspect because you've got so much wet that it lifts the wash. This is a case where--at least with more complicated or vertical shapes--it really does help to "roll your own" molds. Alicia's got kind of an evangelical bent with this stuff, so I know she's interested in sharing, and I'll keep you posted if something comes up. But I think she's got to be the one to share. Sorry about that-- Thanks-- --cynthia Hi, Claudia. Since they’re not my techniques, I’m not really comfortable sharing much more, particularly specific schedules (there’s a range of them) without Alicia’s permission.

One thing, though–these aren’t done on a kilnwashed ceramic mold, as you can see above, but rather packed on wet plaster-silica investments. I’ve had some success on my own with pate de verre techniques on a kilnwashed permanent mold, and you CAN get it to work with enough fine/powder frit and a very solid, tight and layered pack.

Still, the kilnwash does have a tendency to stick, I suspect because you’ve got so much wet that it lifts the wash. This is a case where–at least with more complicated or vertical shapes–it really does help to “roll your own” molds.

Alicia’s got kind of an evangelical bent with this stuff, so I know she’s interested in sharing, and I’ll keep you posted if something comes up. But I think she’s got to be the one to share.

Sorry about that–

Thanks–

–cynthia

]]> By: claudia atkins http://www.morganica.com/bloggery/2007/glasswork/castingpate-de-verre/alicia-lomne-and-pate-de-verre/comment-page-1/#comment-183 claudia atkins Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:39:46 +0000 http://www.morganica.com/bloggery/2007/12/13/alicia-lomne-and-pate-de-verre/#comment-183 Hi Cynthia: I sooo wanted to take Alicia's class but it was full..and so far I have not found another class coming up in 2008. My own experimentation with firing open vessels always has led to to glass sliding down..often taking kilnwash along. Not pretty...my firing schedule is loooong...about 35 hrs in my kiln. Would you share a bit more about the process, as well as the firing schedule? Thanks Claudia Hi Cynthia:
I sooo wanted to take Alicia’s class but it was full..and so far I have not found another class coming up in 2008. My own experimentation with firing open vessels always has led to to glass sliding down..often taking kilnwash along. Not pretty…my firing schedule is loooong…about 35 hrs in my kiln.
Would you share a bit more about the process, as well as the firing schedule?
Thanks
Claudia

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